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Violent Media: Discussion - 2006/04/30 20:13 This thread discusses the Content article: Violent Media: Discussion

Very well written, and he has some really good points. While my parents never encouraged me to beat up other kids, they never tried to stifle my violent side -- I'm glad of that.
Thinking about how to raise children always comes up when I'm wandering around in stores (especially when I see parents who let their kids walk all over them). It's kind of refreshing to see that my way of thinking is sort of shared by others. I don't think video games or harsh media cause children to be violent -- if anything, it's the constrictions of societal norms that cause them to act out.
I'm not saying that I'm going to allow my young children to watch R rated movies and play violent games right off the bat -- they will be taught about reality and how things actually work in the world, and the difference between right and wrong. But I do think that the video games and comics are an excellent outlet for the rage and other emotions we feel, as well as all the different aspects of entertainment (books, movies, interpretive dance, etc.).
Very nice find Verg. ^_^
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Re:Violent Media: Discussion - 2006/04/30 20:40 database integrity test

*sigh of releif* moderator is now attempting to move pheonix's post.

Attempt to move failed. Locking extra topic and copying Phoenix's post.

"Anger and violence are part of the human psyche just as love and acts of kindness are, and as they are part of each and every one of us, to try to stifle them leaves a part of a person stunted, denied, repressed, and bottled up. I personally feel that doing that to any part of a person is unhealthy for that person, whatever goals are aimed after in doing so. Western culture is shaped by Christian values, and Western culture shapes much of the world. Consequently, the culture promotes being like the highest figure in Christianity; God, who is perfect while humans are not. Divine perfection is by no means achievable by humans, but what I would call human perfection, taking all parts of yourself and learning how they fit well and productively into your society, is."

Post copied from Phoenix, written 2006/04/30 20:36

Post edited by: vergil, at: 2006/04/30 20:47
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Re:Violent Media: Discussion - 2006/05/08 02:15 Okay I've re-read the article since I never took the time to add my comments during finals week. My apologies.

This piece, btw, was something I had to read for my TC:339 class in regards to the violence in video games argument. I really do need to stress that if you guys think you are willing to do the pre-reqs and can get to it, Ethan Watrall’s class is pretty entertaining for the gamer at heart.

With that out of the way…

I concur in the most part with what has been said both here and in the article. In my mind, from a biological stand point, in order for Homo Sapiens to be a competitive creature on this planet, a world of kill or be killed, eat or be eaten, there needs to be a certain potential for violence. There are far too many creatures on Earth that can use fear or hunger or just instinct to drive them to do harm to humans. We, as a result, in order to get to where we are on this world, needed to not just become violent, but cleverly violent, and be able to master our complex emotions to organize and motivate our generally frail selves.

Perhaps now that we are the dominant creature in the world, not in terms of population or food chain, as there are many insects and microbes that can still destroy us, but in terms of power and control over Earth an her resources, we do not need this violence as much. One would think that with our advanced minds we should see no need to take from each other, and share and share alike.

The fact of the matter is that, for whatever reason, humans are never happy just having enough. They want more. They want to provide a better future for their offspring than the offspring of others. They are willing to great lengths to ensure that. Racial and religion prejudice, sexism, genocide, propaganda, even various churches work to ensure some societies are more successful than others.

Sure, we no longer live in the dog-eat dog world that our species was in when we emerged from the womb of Mitochondrial Eve (or the just Eve if you are a creationist). But a modern human, man or woman, must, in order to develop into a self-assertive member of modern society, must, to an extent, be a master of their own rage, their own strength. It is only through this that we lose the helplessness of our youth and feel secure in our own power, no matter how much or how little it may be.

Some of us get there by becoming great learners, and convincing ourselves that we can solve any problem through thought and discussions. Others train their physical forms to great lengths, so that the average person could not best them in a physical contest. Others, convinced the human physique is insufficient, will train in firearms or other weapons, so that they can use their tools to defend themselves and their young.

Others still, learn from the stories of the past, or the imaginations of others, how to react when trouble comes.

That was me. Sure I received a large amount of confidence as a youth from my martial arts training, but I was still painfully made aware of my size and my lack of mastery compared to the adults in my class. However, learning how to overcome use my enemy’s weaknesses against them through Mega Man, or that with courage and training even a small boy can defeat evil through Zelda, I found an outlet for my helplessness that no peaceful text could have provided me.

I do think that good parents do discourage violence at an early age, and encourage children to understand when it is right to use their might. I also think good parents do not shelter their kids from violence entirely though, and know that only through mastering their rage, or fear, or other emotions through whatever way they choose, can they develop into a healthy individual.

I will always fondly remember when I told mom about the kids threatening me in school. She would tell me that if she ever heard I was starting fights and beating kids up with my martial arts, I would get a scolding the likes of which I had never seen. If, on the other hand, someone attacked me, and I beat the living daylights out of them, she would not only defend my case to the principle, but probably give me a big hug when I got home. I was happy when she was true to her word.
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